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The Watchtower's Medical Expert
by Lee Elder ina new article by s. sparrow, published today at ajwrb, investigates dr. joachim boldt, one of the watchtower's “bloodless medicine” experts.
a notorious “medical pretender” who has exposed jw's to additional needless risk.
watchtower continues to cite this source, and fails to expose him as a fraud.
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The Watchtower's Medical Expert
by Lee Elder ina new article by s. sparrow, published today at ajwrb, investigates dr. joachim boldt, one of the watchtower's “bloodless medicine” experts.
a notorious “medical pretender” who has exposed jw's to additional needless risk.
watchtower continues to cite this source, and fails to expose him as a fraud.
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Lee Elder
A new article by S. Sparrow, published today at AJWRB, investigates Dr. Joachim Boldt, one of the Watchtower's “bloodless medicine” experts. A notorious “medical pretender” who has exposed JW's to additional needless risk. Watchtower continues to cite this source, and fails to expose him as a fraud. In the process, they leave more than eight million people exposed to bad medical advice.
http://ajwrb.org/the-watchtowers-medical-expert
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Blood Transfusions are Biblically Supported
by allpoweredup into jehovah's witnesses elders: blood transfusions are biblically supported: acts 15:20 says abstain from blood but 1 samuel 14:32-5 says saul's army ate unbled meat to not starve and no verses show god not forgiving them.
christ says god also forgave david's eating temple holy bread to survive and that god wants mercy not sacrifice.
(mt 12) the may 22, 1994 awake tells of 26 jehovah's witness kids who died without transfusions, and by common sense in massive bleeding as in car wrecks blood expanders won't save lives http://www.ajwrb.org.
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Lee Elder
Chook- Brilliant questions and intervention. Cheers!
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Blood Transfusions are Biblically Supported
by allpoweredup into jehovah's witnesses elders: blood transfusions are biblically supported: acts 15:20 says abstain from blood but 1 samuel 14:32-5 says saul's army ate unbled meat to not starve and no verses show god not forgiving them.
christ says god also forgave david's eating temple holy bread to survive and that god wants mercy not sacrifice.
(mt 12) the may 22, 1994 awake tells of 26 jehovah's witness kids who died without transfusions, and by common sense in massive bleeding as in car wrecks blood expanders won't save lives http://www.ajwrb.org.
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Lee Elder
In every case the Biblical context either states or implies that the prohibition is against the eating of blood. Eating allows the blood to be digested and used by the body as food. A blood transfusion is not "eating blood". No digestion takes place. Doctors do no prescribe blood products to treat malnutrition or hunger. End of conversation.
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Watchtower Coercion of Non-JWs
by Lee Elder init is widely known that the watchtower coerces compliance with its deadly blood dogma.
a less known fact is that this pressure is further extended to non-believing family members of jw's.
a new story at ajwrb recounts how jw elders nearly cost the life of one unbeliever when he fell gravely anemic.
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Lee Elder
Thank you "Under the Radar" for another example of this pernicious aspect of the WT blood doctrine.
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Watchtower Coercion of Non-JWs
by Lee Elder init is widely known that the watchtower coerces compliance with its deadly blood dogma.
a less known fact is that this pressure is further extended to non-believing family members of jw's.
a new story at ajwrb recounts how jw elders nearly cost the life of one unbeliever when he fell gravely anemic.
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Lee Elder
Sparrowdown: Please post your story in the comment section of the story at AJWRB so it doesn't get lost to time. Thanks.
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Watchtower Coercion of Non-JWs
by Lee Elder init is widely known that the watchtower coerces compliance with its deadly blood dogma.
a less known fact is that this pressure is further extended to non-believing family members of jw's.
a new story at ajwrb recounts how jw elders nearly cost the life of one unbeliever when he fell gravely anemic.
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Lee Elder
Sparrowdown: This speaks to the blood phobias instilled in JWs by Watchtower. Clearly, they know a non-JW is under no restriction from using blood. Now perhaps someone would argue that the restriction applies to all because of the Noachian covenant. I would call nonsense on that because that is strictly a Watchtower interpretation that is universally rejected by Christian and Jewish scholars.
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New Research at AJWRB
by Lee Elder inthe latest research article published at ajwrb estimates the number of jehovah's witnesses who have died from following or being coerced to follow watchtower's blood policy.
the numbers are staggering.
http://ajwrb.org/jehovahs-witnesses-and-blood-tens-of-thousands-dead-in-hidden-tragedy.
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Lee Elder
Ruby 456. You wrote:
"the problem is that the poster and you Lee elder are not addressing why this study was done and why it appears in later journals. the study was done in order to know and manage risks amongst JW patients who become anaemic to improve outcomes and this is one of the things which you are not allowing for in your so called conservative estimates and it is this that makes your estimates sensationalist".
This is patently false. You have either not read the original research by Beliaev in July 2012 VoxSanginis, or you are being intentionally dishonest. The research was undertaken to assess the clinical benefit and cost-effectiveness of ARBC transfusion in severe anemia. In order to do this the researchers did the only thing they could do, compare costs and outcomes with patients who accept ARBC transfusion with costs and outcomes with a matched set of patients who refuse ARBC transfusion.
Beliaev et als research demonstrated that ARBC transfusion in anaemic patients is clinically beneficial and cost-effective. On this point the outcome of JW patients suffering severe anemia who refused ARBC transfusion, compared to patients who were treated with ARBC transfusion resoundingly demonstrated that ARBC transfusion to treat patients with severe anemia is extremely effective, not to mention its cost effectiveness.I have attached a scan of the front page of the article. It is not available for free online, only the abstract.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/22150804
Please move your mind to another subject. I am too busy with important work to continually have to correct your mistakes.
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Watchtower Coercion of Non-JWs
by Lee Elder init is widely known that the watchtower coerces compliance with its deadly blood dogma.
a less known fact is that this pressure is further extended to non-believing family members of jw's.
a new story at ajwrb recounts how jw elders nearly cost the life of one unbeliever when he fell gravely anemic.
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Lee Elder
It makes you wonder how many unbelieving spouses, and other relatives have experienced this kind of pressure from their JW family, and elders at the local congregation.
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Watchtower Coercion of Non-JWs
by Lee Elder init is widely known that the watchtower coerces compliance with its deadly blood dogma.
a less known fact is that this pressure is further extended to non-believing family members of jw's.
a new story at ajwrb recounts how jw elders nearly cost the life of one unbeliever when he fell gravely anemic.
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Lee Elder
Here is another experience via a comment on this story at AJWRB. This one does not have a happy ending, and it yet another factor in why our death estimate is low:
JV on August 18, 2017 at 1:29 PMDuring one of my travels, I met a fellow about my age (in his late 60s) at an ex-JW meetup. He learned about me while reading articles on the Internet and was looking forward to having a conversation.
During our conversation, he literally broke down and cried right in front of me. It is rare to see a man of his age just completely break down like that – but he could not control his emotions. I just sat there and waited until he was able to regather his composure.
“I killed my father. I didn’t want to do that – I wanted him to live. But I felt I had no choice. I refused to let him have a blood transfusion. I looked at his eyes and I could see him begging me to allow him a chance to live – and I refused. I’ve carried that burden of guilt ever since.”
Then he shared a most shocking revelation: His father was not, and never had been a Jehovah’s Witness. While his father was struggling to live waiting for him to allow the doctors to proceed with needed treatment that included one or more transfusions – he blocked them from performing their healing therapy. “I might as well have pointed a gun at my fathers head and pulled the trigger,” he added – tears streaming down his face.
I won’t go on with his story because I do not want to give away more information about him that might identify who he is. My point is that the elders were able to convince him to engage himself and force their blood transfusion policies on a man who was not, and never had been a JW. He remarked, “If there ever was a case of ‘blood guilt,’ I am it. I was truly responsible for the death of my own father.”
I’ve completely lost contact with that fellow over the years, so I do not know his current status. I do hope that he sees this and send me a reply. But the point is that those elders truly carry the blame (or at least part of it) for convincing someone to withhold a blood transfusion from a parent who was never a JW. The same thing applies to JW parents making those same decisions for their ill children – babies who never had a chance to make their own choices. If there is a “God” – I can not imagine that he-she-it would ever have intended for anyone to die needlessly over a ridiculous rule from 3500 years ago. I could almost imagine Him saying, “Jesus Christ! I gave you the knowledge of how to utilize blood transfusions to save lives – and now you reject my gift? What the hell are you thinking?!!!!”